These "ancient, ambiguous, and. Contemplation is apprehension uncluttered by thoughtparticularly preconception and analysis. Every compound elements etc possesses shape and colour that attracts the senses. So lets give that a shot. Im loosely affiliated with an international church (evangelical) in Beijing; and it is quite stark to me here how the Western mind (American in particular) shapes and engages with Christian faith. (As ridiculous as it may sound in our context) I was on a run and received a word of prophecy to deliver to an old friend. Folks could believe, and demonstrate how what they believe causes them to live, and treat their fellow men and women. His Attributes cannot be fixed, limited or defined. One of the hallmarks of progressive Christianity is a rejection of biblical sexuality, and an affirmation of same-sex marriage and premarital sex. Havent found much written on it. And look to see if theyre shared. Yet since these experiences come across as transcendent many put a higher truth value on them than anything else in life. I mean, I continue to wonder about such questions after leaving Evangelicalism. For, everything is under the one and the same law-the law of transformation and decline. So Im not really sure what your point is. To conclude, I'd like to quote Enns one more time. If this is my basis, Im as comfortable (maybe more comfortable) with a Great Spirit of native Americans as I am with a YHWH of Israel. Legitttttttt. But in essence our Christian hope is a trust that God will in fact be good to his word (which is trust now verifying the identity of God through science observation seems impossible but there are many things, and I say many things we cannot fully grasp by using human studies, judgments, experimentation, etc). I also would want to point out that the Christian religion has to do with a person named Jesus (as christians we believe this Jesus is still transforming lives and hes on the loose), in other words it is not just a simple have faith or belief The Christian faith is a living trust that Jesus Christ (messiah) will rescue (has will in the future) the world for a global renewal (earth and heaven). Then here you go! I count it a great privilege to help students keep their horizons in front of them and come to know God better on their life-journey. But parents in talking with each other can often immediately grasp when a fellow parent reveals that they share that same experience. But It comes at a high costthat of calories to feed the brain. That is what He did for me over 50 years ago. ". Some people really like what I say. To me, simply, neither these two billion adherents nor their leaders really seem all that differentiated from their peer adherents of Allah, Brahma, and more in sacred task of transforming the world. Also, be sure to read the book rather than a blurb to see what I am after. I didnt say anything about your knowledge of other religions. And this is the connection to mysticism. Peter is an Old Testament scholar (PhD, Harvard University) who currently teaches as Affiliate Faculty of Biblical Studies at Eastern University. Peter Enns is Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, Pennsylvania. (Ive blogged on Benner several times, for examplehere. God or not God? Id rather live today in the western world than at any other time in human history. No different than if we observed sight to function so unreliably that 10 different people looking at the same event saw 10 substantially different things and this happened again and again and again and was in fact the norm. God, our creator cannot be perceivable by the five senses for, He is not a thing-which is compound elements etc or created. . But if you are after people of all religions, denominations, sects and cults saying, We dont really know, but why change because this seems to be working alright? Fine. But let us then continue this comparison to Buddhism. Reason and sagacity cannot visualise Him. That said, I can see the contemplative Hindu or Buddhist saying the exact same thing. and Ph.D. Harvard University Or the mega church movement, to try and get and sustain even a greater Jesus high. M.Div. First, note the way I phrased the staged questions above. It went something like this: Your desire to employ empiricism as a means of knowing God; you are like a person in the middle of a realm with night-vision goggles, microscopes, radar equipment, headphones and such. Now, whether this evidence is good evidence or not. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. And it is worth noting that my list is subjective too. Dr. Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. On another point, both in Johns writings and Peters writings there are statements of eye-witness testimonies. http://edward-t-babinski.blogspot.com/2015/08/christians-or-non-christians-who-suffer.html Namely the objective facts that these experiences are shared between many parents, that they have roughly the same qualia of experience, and that having a child of your own seems to bring them about. Eye-witness accounts on Mount Sinai, the Mount of transfiguration, the road to Damascus and on and on. In both stories, the boat comes to rest on a mountain and birds are sent out to find land. Perhaps less than that, I would be more arrogant, less loving, poorer, and have no progeny. There are multiple (a lot!) I am committed to encouraging young Christian men and women to explore their faith by engaging Scripture, and in so doing make their faith their own and mature as followers of Christ. If we hold to the same manner in which we share any other experience with those around us, we would ge bound to accept this. Simply, the method yields divergent knowings, perhaps even a different sin of certainty. I have posts on my blog, Scrivenings, about depressions and suicide among Christians, and their gullibility, i.e., religious affinity fraud. To me, simply, neither these two billion adherents nor there leaders really seem all that differentiated from their peer adherents of Allah, Brahma, and more in sacred task of transforming the world. fullness Asking whether the enemy, or lunch, or nothing is moving in the bush over there is something we do together. An Atheist that believes in God. You will know whom I mean, Atheism may be comparatively popular with God himself, When a pious visitor inquired sweetly, Henry, have you made your peace with God? he replied, We have never quarreled., Henry David Thoreau as quoted in Henry David Thoreau: What Manner of Man? Ive spent a lot of time thinking about subjectivity, hermeneutics, revelation, and Jesus as mediator (in the sense that Jesus is the medium through which God is known does the Spirit now occupy that space? The way we organize socially as spiritual communities reflects how we organize the project of faith internally. I suspect that leaving the Westminster cocoon could be unsettling, but you are still ensconced cozily in the moderate to liberal Christian cocoon. Some people live with more uncertainty than you do. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where "'the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.' Im pretty sure it looks like what we are doing on here (if our intentions are purely to seek and accept). Dr. Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. Therefore, that which is felt or known by the senses, having shape and colour, cannot be God. However, there are many Christians in our country who also want to enforce solely biblical beliefs here too. Redemption to a broken world? Dr. Enns resides in Lansdale, PA with his wife Sue, and has three adult children. My point is that we ought to consider seriously the word of an eyewitness, especially when the eye witness is a confirmed historical figure. Previously he was a Senior Fellow of . Find it on Amazon: http://amzn.to/19X9WC7Find it at CBD: http://bit.ly/1dnBcesPeter Enns discusses the inerrancy of the Bible as an often contentious topic. Peter Enns does it again!' Richard Rohr, author of Falling Upward For many Christians, the Bible is a how-to manual filled with literal truths about belief that must be strictly followed. The rule that clarity is the standard of truth subsequently achieved dominance in the Enlightenment (Bavinck, Reformed Dogmatics, 1 vol edition, 486). Depending on how you interpret Gods word, I hope He is not good to it in the sense of damning nonbelievers to an eternity of torment. Professor. He was after all, our first RC President. Incarceration Nation http://edward-t-babinski.blogspot.com/2015/01/leaving-ministry-left-ministry-polls.html. where Paul regards Adam's disobedience as the cause of universal sin and death from which humanity is redeemed through the obedience of Christ. Sorry for the aimless rambling and thanks again for your post! One final question. 2 Peter 1:15 and following say For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. With the exact same merit. I get asked now and then, Pete, youre a reasonably intelligent guy, with a Ph.D. and everything. Thanks for an honest perspective which does not offer more than can be proven. Peter K. Enns. Whoever accepts His Attributes to be other than His Person then actually forsakes the idea of Unity of God and believes in duality ( He and His Attributes). Some people really hate what I say--and I've lost a couple of jobs because of my views. Im not sure the world would be a better place if more people thought like me, though do you mind if I out this on my resume? Thanks for posting this. Over the next twelve months our focus will be "Old and New: An . I am sincerely interested in your thoughts on two ideas. Just trust in Him. wouldnt it be more appropriate to say that its possibly an I witness account..the sin of certainty. He has written numerous books, including The Bible Tells Me So, The Sin of Certainty, and How the Bible Actually Works. It loads making sure we hold the correct beliefs with too much weight; we then shore up our set of beliefs in a fortress of impregnability, making them the source of our trust and so-called certainty rather trusting in the living God. and disasters Peter K. Enns is a Professor in the Department of Government and the Brooks School of Public Policy and Robert S. Harrison Director of the Cornell Center for Social Sciences. When a faith fights the fight of certainty of an understanding the world as-is putting iron age as-is foundations against present-day as-is understandings, the battle is already conceded. Like someone is running for political office. The Evolution of Adam: What the Bible does and doesn't say about human origins Jonathan Jong 2012, Theology and Science Abstract In this review, I summarize and critically evaluate Peter Enns's claim that evangelicals ought not read Genesis 13 literally. Yet how is this testimony for more than such kind of belief being an adaptive trait? When people insist that the Apostles Creed is where you have to start, its no wonder that you wind up with some people who dont believe in God and other people who dont believe in the World. And I echo your sentiments on the value of a more contemplative way of life. Introduction to the Old Testament; Introduction to the New Testament; Biblical Hermeneutics; Israelite History and Historiography; Hebrew Prophets; Romans in Context; Genesis in Context; Research Methods in Biblical Studies; From Conquest to Exile; Wisdom and Psalms; Science and the Bible; Torah. And I would suggest this hypothetical is realized in all actuality within spiritual perception. Also check out The Inner Eye of Love by a Jesuit named William Johnson, or try books by Dom Bede Griffiths, a fellow convert with C. S. Lewis but who spent his life in India dialoguing with people of other religions. . Peter Eric Enns (born January 2, 1961) is an American Biblical scholar and theologian. All this is to say, I am not ready to leave the hope and realism of modernity behind yet, but if I do it wont be atheism. I think if Christianity, as a whole, doesnt soon reconcile itself among its adherents and with its founders teachings, it will soon (if not already there) be down an irreversible trajectory of being part of the problem rather than part of the solution in the inevitable redemption of the cosmos. Take sight perception as an example. If yes, then how are we to treat the writings from the same period by men such as Josephus or Pliny. Peter Enns' new book, How the Bible Actually Works, at its best seeks to place us on the hard, but rewarding, path of wisdom. Adam's name appears first in Genesis 1 with a collective sense, as "mankind"; subsequently in Genesis 2-3 it carries the definite article ha, equivalent to English "the", indicating that this is "the man". Something that transcends your petty thoughts as to self, or day to day concerns, and fills you with so much love and gratitude and beauty that if feels your heart will burst. enns has published three books hijacking the agenda: economic power and political influence (winner of the gladys m. kammerer award, presented by the american political science association to honor the best book published during the previous year in the field of u.s. national policy), incarceration nation: how the united states became the most I think the answer is bringing up the conversations more and trying to find what we have in common with each other. ~ Jackson Browne. There are surely myriad of ways of knowing God In the provIsIons that are avaIlable to each one of us, As one is riding the Starlight Express propelled through time experiencing mAturity, old Age And deAth. It is based on direct and personal encounter. The Spirit? Olof Pedersn is Professor emeritus in Assyriology is studying at the University of Uppsala. He has not permitted human mind to grasp the Essence of His Being **YET** He has not prevented them from realising His Presence. Id suggest if participation, longing, , and immediacy are ways of knowing God, that they would more need to be means of recursively traversing an infinite regress of fractal complexity than means of simply and linearly knowing a static being. Slow chuckle. . The Christian trusts God even when things do not always make sense this tensions exists in the Christian message and story (but it exists in everyones story) the four Gospels are not shy in displaying this reality. But I also get that Christianity isnt really transforming the world through compassion essentially better than anything or anyone else. And if Peter didnt write it and the author was not present; is it still considered an eyewitness testimony? There can be various degrees of certainty, of course. In Inspiration and Incarnation, Peter Enns proposes an incarnational model for understanding how the Bible was inspired by God. I like your emphasis here. Pete Enns critiques John Piper's recent remarks about the Jewish conquest of Canaan in the Old Testament. Are they indeed properly basic?. Im trying to think through/explore this. The social architecture of the church, from leadership to prayer groups, all functions along protocols and vetting systems based on doctrinal beliefs, trust-building with leaders, participation in activities, meetings and conferences, etc. I find cultural differences to be fascinating and rich sources in discovering what is possible within the human experience. 2) Do their beliefs about God or Gods or whatever bring us to harming the other or the world, or bring us to healing and redeeming? Maybe more so than that of our sense perception of sight? Enns seeks to grow us in maturity so that we might take up wisdom. 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